How to change a NPC to a Pty company
You formed a NPC thinking that it would never accumulate profits, but now it sits with Retained Earnings and you can’t declare dividends. Can you convert it to a Pty?
The straight answer is No. This conversion is not allowed in terms of the Companies Act of 2008. So what must you do?
There are two issues
- How to extract the Retained Earnings and
- How to restart as a (Pty) Ltd company
These can be dealt with in the following way –
- All Directors and employees of a NPC are entitled to reasonable salaries or earnings. You can’t take out dividends, but you can take out income for services provided, rental of premises, interest on loans etc. You will pay Income Tax on those earnings and, presuming that the NPC was registered as an Exempt Institution at SARS, there will be no tax saving in the company.
- Form a new Pty Ltd company and simply do the trade through that company. You may need to keep the NPC alive if it has registrations that are required for that kind of operation. You simply need to decide where to slice its former activities between it and the Pty Ltd company.
So, all though it is technically not possible to convert a NPC to a Pty Ltd company, the above work around has the same effect.
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Hi Derek,
Trust you are well.
In the event that an NPC receives funds, either from donation or dividends and they have to pay out the funds to their beneficiaries, how would that be stipulated and taxed? Do the beneficiaries pay income tax?
Let’s assume the NPC was not exempt from Tax.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Joey,
If the NPC is not a PBO, then it pays Donations Tax if it makes donations totalling more than R10 000. Donations are taxed in the donors hands not in the recipients hands.
If the NPC was registered as a PBO, then there would be no tax in the transaction.
Hi Derek,
Thanks for the reply. So the company that makes donations towards the NPC pays donations tax if that is more than R10k.
The NPC will pay donations tax if it makes more than R10k’s distributions to it’s beneficiaries? Am I understanding this correctly.
Thanks again!
Hi Leon,
That’s my understanding. Best would be if the NPC could register as a PBO.
Can you register a pty with same name as you registered npc? To keep same brand?
Hi Nena,
No, you cannot duplicate company names. However, you can register a very similar name. The original company has to give consent.
Hence we have Harbour Associates, Harbour and Associates, Harbour and Associates Management Services etc.
You could simply add SA after the name, for example.
Hi Nena,
There’s another option XYZ (Pty) Ltd trading as
Hi Derek
What is meant by unrelated director?
Is it in terms of family and how far does that extend?
Why such a rule? Would friends then not be a similar concern?
Thanks
Hi D,
Unrelated means just that. However, it is generally interpreted as close relation. i.e spouse, sibling, parent or child. Best is to ensure that the surnames are different.
I don’t write the rules, so cannot comment as to why.
hi
The conversion of an NPC to a Pty Ltd is not possible, that is well understood. The process of converting an Pty Ltd to NPC turnaround time is.?
Hi Kabelo,
We’ve never done this before, so I am getting my office to check and I will then post another response. I will also email it to you.
Hi Kabelo,
We’re still struggling to get a response from CIPC. I now recall that we did convert our own Gallagher Combined School from a (Pty) Ltd to a NPC and I’ve found the documentation. It appears to have taken 4 months for CIPC to register the change.
Hi Derek
Can you advise if we want to change our current company that is a trading company Pty to an NPO, please can you advise if you can help, how much will it cost, does it also go through CIPC and can we change the name at the same time when doing the change
Hi Tanya,
Yes, you can change from Pty to NPC, but not the other way round. We charge R9 120 for this job.
A name change costs an additional R1 300 at CIPC and R900 at SARS
Good day.
Article is understood, but what about converting it the other way around. Converting a (Pty) Ltd to a NPC?
That can be done. No problem.
How can I change Pty to NPC or PBO
Hi Siphamandla,
We can do that for you. It currently costs R9 120. You will need at least 3 unrelated directors. Send me an email if you want to go ahead.
I want to convert my company from NPC to Pty (Ltd)
Hi Georgina. Please re-read the article. The straight answer is that you can’t. However, there are, as the article points out, two possible work-arounds. Why not book a meeting with me via Zoom or Google Meet? https://harbourassociates.youcanbook.me/ There’s no charge.
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Can we please talk via email Onalennakgatwe97@gmail.com
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I understood what is written well, but there’s one thing i would like to ask.
Hi Onalenna,
What is it that you want to ask?
Good evening
I understood what is written well, but there’s one thing i would like to ask.